Before I meet Andy Goldsworthy, I have a wander
round the retrospective of his work being
constructed at the Yorkshire Sculpture Park, near
Wakefield. Goldsworthy creates moments of wonder out
of local rocks and earth and trees, and this
wandering prompts several questions, which I jot
down in my notebook: are all farm animals abstract
expressionists? Is one dry-stone waller's work
distinguishable from another's? Just how do you
suspend these three oak trees in mid-air below
ground in the middle of a field? And, is sheep shit
more user-friendly (for smearing on gallery windows)
than cow shit?
Goldsworthy is 50 and, as these questions suggest,
back in his element. Lately, the British
countryside's most engaging propagandist has been
pursuing his vision all across the world. He has
made unlikely cairns in Des Moines, a monumental
Holocaust memorial in New York (for which he planted
oak trees in giant boulders). A return to the green,
green grass of home feels overdue. He grew up not
too far from here, on the Harrogate side of Leeds,
in a house edging the green belt. He was a guest
artist at this sculpture park way back in 1983, when
he was still asking himself whether there might be a
career at all in making piles of stones off the
beach look like Brancusis or in taking vast Scottish
snowballs down to London and observing them melt.
In the time since, he has collected a team of
craftsmen and labourers who follow him around the
globe, humping wood and carving stone. This morning
I come across several of them, working in small
groups on the various ingenious constructions that
Goldsworthy has set in motion. Five men are out in a
copse making a circular dry-stone structure that
will obstruct a right of way and offer no entry or
exit; a stubborn comment on the Enclosure Act of
1801, among other things. The foreman, Gordon
Wilson, is on the phone to Goldsworthy, clarifying
whether the copestones of the enclosure will be done
in the Yorkshire style, rough and ready, or the
Nottinghamshire, curved; another group on a
different hill is making a complex sheep pen. 'I've
been reading The Observer for 40 years,' Dave
Griffiths tells me, 'and I've been waiting for you
to do a story on dry-stone walling....'
Dave's patience has not been in vain. His crafted
pens of quarried rock have at their centre an
eight-and-a-half-ton block of sandstone on which
visitors will be invited to make 'rain shadows';
this process will involve waiting for a likely
looking rain cloud and then, as the first drops
begin to fall, lying full length on the rock and
allowing a body-shaped silhouette to form, which the
prostrate pilgrim will photograph and contribute to
an archive. I imagine a queue of cagoule-clad
ramblers gazing at the horizon, invoking drizzle.
The perfect English day out.
The tour across the park - which also takes in
'paintings' made in mud on canvas by sheep feeding
around a circular trough - is a preamble to the
subterranean weirdness that Goldsworthy is creating
in the gallery itself. In five large adjacent rooms
underground, he is reproducing some of his greatest
hits. Almost filling the first room is one of his
enormous egg-shaped 'black holes' made of mossy,
random curved logs, held together only by the
artist's uncanny defiance of gravity and a kind of
ancient energy; in the next are an unsettling colony
of 11 stepped clay mounds, each with a vacancy at
the top, that seem like the extraordinary efforts of
avant-garde termites; beside these, in what has the
feel of a medieval workshop, art students are mixing
clay with sackfuls of human hair diligently
collected from nearby salons and slapping it on the
walls; as this hirsute plaster dries out it will
crack and crumble and be held together by myriad
strands of local DNA.
The fourth room is waiting for a coppiced dome
with a 20ft diameter that I'm told Goldsworthy will
knock up in the next few days - I've been inside a
previous dome he made at the Albion Gallery in
London and can still recall the otherworldly
claustrophobia of it, like finding yourself in the
stomach of a tree. In the final room I come across
the artist himself up a stepladder working on a
beautiful filamented curtain stretching the full
height and width of the gallery that up close turns
out to be made from horse-chestnut twigs held
together with thorns, each one - more than 10,000 in
all - painstakingly jointed by hand. Goldsworthy
comes down and, over his umpteenth big custard tart
and mug of latte of the day ('this kind of thing
burns up the calories'), tells me what he is up to.
He talks with a precise animation, at odds with
his Yorkshire vowels, and a constant sense of
mischief in his face. 'They are calling this a
retrospective,' he says, 'but actually I'm only
interested in developing new stuff. Take this,' he
gestures at the horse-chestnut curtain, 'I
discovered this here in 1987 when I picked up a few
horse-chestnut stalks and pinned them together with
thorns, and I found that holding them up to the
light was really beautiful. I wondered if I could
span a couple of trees with them, and I was amazed
that I could. Now here I am 30 years later making a
mesh that spans a room 12m wide. I wanted to put
this in to show the way things have grown, the
technical things, you know....'
One of Goldsworthy's talents is to make such
intricate stunts look easy. At one point he quotes
Whistler's notion that a work of art is not finished
until all signs of the effort of making it have been
removed. He likes that idea. I suggest the 'black
hole', the great cairn of oak branches he has
created up the corridor, as a good example of that.
He laughs, in the way you might when thinking of
the challenges of disciplining a high-spirited
child. 'Stone to some extent has a system to it,' he
says. 'But with wood every branch is totally
different. I always look at the branches laid out on
the grass before I begin and I think, "Oh fuck, here
we go." I used to do them in a day. I can throw them
up. But I took my time with this one, three days. To
start with, you don't know what character it will
take. If the base gets too wide it can be very sort
of lumpen.'
What he is trying to bring out, he says, is
something like the same quality that existed in the
original trees. 'That effortlessness. A tree is so
perfect in its profile but it is underwritten by
this enormous daily struggle over years and decades.
That is the energy I am aiming for.'
Goldsworthy is a land artist in the tradition of
the great American earth-movers like Robert Smithson
who created Spiral Jetty at Salt Lake, Utah. Richard
Long, who imported that tradition to Britain, is
another mentor; like them, he wants to get away from
two-dimensional representation of landscape in a
frame, and give you the thing itself. That's the
theory. But he is also strongly in the tradition of
everyone who has ever had memorable days making dens
in parks or sandcastles on beaches. He preserves
such ephemeral creations, icicle statues on rocks,
brilliant forest dramas made with autumn leaves, in
exquisite photographs. Goldsworthy's books are,
reportedly, the biggest-selling art books in the
country.
It's tempting to think of him as a naive kind of
artist, returning us to childhood communion with
nature. I tell him my eldest daughter, who is seven,
keeps his book Passage by her bed, endlessly
intrigued by how he makes things with twigs and
stones, wondering why her dad can't do the same. He
says he used to hate it when people referred to his
work as childlike, or worse childish, believing
himself to be a heroic conceptualist. 'I used to
say, "Hey, I'm a grown-up and this is grown-up art."
But since I have had my own children,' he has four,
'and seen how intensely a child looks at things, you
really can't describe that looking as naive. My work
is childlike in the sense that I am never satisfied
to look at something and say that is just a pond or
a tree or whatever. I want to touch it, get under
the skin of it somehow, try and work out exactly
what it is.'
This necessity got to Goldsworthy early. From the
age of 13 he worked on farms as a labourer. Most of
the lads wanted to drive tractors but he never
fancied that much, rather he liked the repetitive
quality of farm tasks, which he likens to the grind
of making sculpture. 'A lot of my work is like
picking potatoes,' he says. 'You have to get into
the rhythm of it.'
He always assumed that he might have to work as a
gardener or a farmer for the rest of his life, which
he says would have suited him fine as long as he
could do his work. He was learning all the time.
'Farming is a very sculptural profession. Building
haystacks or ploughing fields, burning stubble. And
it is a brutal thing, too. Go round the back of any
farm and there will be a pile of dead lambs. Farmers
see more death than anyone.'
Goldsworthy engages and worries about the
consequences of our general disconnection from the
land and the food chain. He wants to confront the
fact that for urban people the country is just
something nice to look at on a Sunday out.
'Some of my work addresses that very directly,'
he says. 'I did a series of photos which were just
of me skinning a rabbit, just that. The smell and
the blood and the shit. You have no idea. It is not
gratuitous, it is like the sheep paintings in there,
done by sheep on canvas. I hope people will look at
them first as landscape paintings, and then make the
connection that farmers are creating sculptural
landscapes all the time. The gallery window here
overlooks the farmed landscapes. One of the main
reasons it looks so green and beautiful is the
amount of sheep shit on it. I'm going to smear the
windows because I want people to look at the
landscape through shit and see the connection
between the two.'
I suggest to him that his preoccupation with meat
and death links him to Damien Hirst, a near
contemporary from Leeds. Goldsworthy uses the
implications of those facts of life in a different
way though: not as a negative, but as a suggestion
of natural process and renewal. 'Well,' he says, 'I
enjoy the raw shock of Damien Hirst. But for me art
has to be more than shock. I would rather subvert
things, try to make people look at them
differently.'
After college in Lancaster, when he spent most of
his time on the beach at Morecambe making rock
sculptures, Goldsworthy settled in Dumfries: 'I had
no money and it was cheap.' His agent offered him a
small fortune in contracts to relocate to London,
but he declined. It is as impossible to imagine
Goldsworthy living in Hoxton as it is Gilbert and
George in the Dales. He is a man of nature, and part
of him wants to remind us, somewhere deep down, that
we all are.
This urge has seen him described as a druidic
figure, a mystic. He laughs at the idea, though he
allows that his work has a kind of spiritual
purpose. 'Everything has the energy of its making
inside it,' he says. 'There is no doubt that the
internal space of a rock or a tree is important to
me. But when I get beneath the surface of things,
these are not moments of mystery, they are moments
of extraordinary clarity.'
Though he can make this connection with almost
any landscape, he likes working in Britain because
there is always the sense of people having had
claims on the landscape before him. He is sometimes
characterised as a wilderness artist but he rejects
the thought, talking of the importance of
negotiating with farmers and landowners. 'I hate
this idea of people who want to be the first person
somewhere, claim it, or the only person on the
beach. When I am on my holidays I am out there with
the crowds making sand sculptures alongside everyone
else.' Proper holidays for Goldsworthy are few and
far between. He works every day, or tries to,
generally in the woods and fields near his home. 'I
make an awful lot of crap,' he admits, 'but I have
to be out there, trying things.'
This work ethic is maybe something he got from
his parents, who were strict Methodists. From his
father, who was a maths professor at Leeds, it is
also tempting to suggest that he inherited his
intuitive sense of the possibilities of form. 'My
father had a practical side to him. He would dabble
a bit. But he wasn't an artist, like I'm not a
mathematician.'
There is an ephemeral quality locked into
Goldsworthy's work just as surely as it is locked
into nature. Many of his pieces only last a few
hours, though they achieve an afterlife on film or
in photographs (50,000 of which have been catalogued
by his partner, Tina Fiske, an art historian whom he
met when she came to work with him a couple of years
after he separated from his wife). I wonder if as he
gets older he feels the sense of loss, of mortality,
implicit in this transience more keenly?
'I do,' he says. 'The great thing about art for
me, and one of the dangers of contemporary art
becoming too youth-orientated is that it can be a
reflection of a person's entire life. I look forward
to that. When you think of what Matisse did with
those long sticks he used in his late years to draw
with, it is the resistance, the difficulty that
creates the wonderful energy of his line. I really
hope I can do something like that. I am physically
still very able, but I know that will change.'
For the time being, however, Goldsworthy seems
cheerfully capable of almost anything he wants to
do. To prove the point, he goes back to his
improbable curtain of chestnut, which he wants to
try to complete before the afternoon light goes. He
also suggests the answers to the questions that I
noted down at the outset: yes, yes, with great
difficulty, and yes.
· Watch a slideshow of the installation
here
Life on earth
Born 26 July 1956 in Cheshire. Grew up on
the outskirts of Leeds, where he laboured on a farm
from the age of 13.
Education Bradford Art College (1974-75)
and Preston Polytechnic (1975-78).
Family His father, F. Allin Goldsworthy,
was professor of applied mathematics at Leeds
University. In 1982 he married Judith Gregson. They
had four children and moved to Penpont,
Dumfriesshire, where he lives with his current
partner, Tina Fiske, an art historian.
Awards Scottish Arts Council Award, 1987.
Honorary degree from University of Bradford, 1993.
OBE, 2000.
· Andy Goldsworthy's new book, Enclosure,
is published by Thames & Hudson in April. The Andy
Goldsworthy retrospective is at Yorkshire Sculpture
Park from 31 Mar to 6 Jan 2008 (01924 832631;
ysp.co.uk)